Sheriff Wants Gov to Veto Constitutional Carry – Had Gun Stolen From Vehicle
Here’s a story that will make you scratch your head. Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey wants you to know she doesn’t care much for individual freedom, liberty, or the Constitution. She made her position clear in recent comments related to SB 215, which would remove the state’s permit requirement to carry a handgun.
I’m not going to give up. I’m going to be a voice. I’m serious about this. Law enforcement is serious about this and we are not going to let it go. Governor DeWine is going to be held responsible for gun violence that results from the passage of this bill.
Senate Bill 215 and permitless carry in Ohio —
You are the elected Sheriff in just 1 of 88 counties in the state. You are the Sheriff of Hamilton County, which tends to lean politically Democratic and therefore not as gun-friendly as most other areas in the state. So it makes sense you would dislike the idea of the commoner possessing a firearm without receiving your approval first.
Sheriff McGuffy you don’t represent all Law Enforcement. You can hear her statement here.
What “gun violence” —
Secondly, for what “gun violence” does she plan to hold DeWine accountable? Who are the people committing violent crimes? Is it people who follow the law? Of course not.
The heart of the person carrying the gun doesn’t change because the state institutes a license requirement. The person who wants to commit a crime doesn’t ask you for permission before carrying a firearm.
It’s pretty apparent that I vehemently disagree with Sheriff McGuffey’s opinion that constitutional carry hurts public safety. Statistics in the “more guns = more gun crime” and the “stricter gun laws = more gun crime” are misleading and inconclusive.
Here is a link to a post explaining what I’m talking about if you’re interested.
Criminals and stolen guns —
I get it that Sheriff McGuffy is sensitive to criminal activity, especially when the criminal uses a gun in the crime. Maybe it’s a moral issue for her. She doesn’t want anyone to become a victim of “gun violence.”
She is so fearful that bad people may get guns that she is cool with restricting even the law-abiding people’s access to firearms. She wants you to come to ask her for permission to carry a gun.
And she is so against “gun violence” so much so that she threatens to hold the Governor accountable if he doesn’t overrule laws passed by the legislature.
It sounds to me like the Sheriff would rather legislate than enforce the law. You can’t do both. Time for a career change?
Sheriff McGuffy also knows that criminals routinely use stolen guns in their crimes. Even anti-gunners want to punish gun owners if their guns are stolen and used in crimes.
Responsible gun owners consider proper gun storage essential and that leaving a gun in their car is not wise. The Sheriff would also know this, right?
McGuffy’s gun stolen —
Now consider an incident from June 20, 2021, where a criminal stole Sheriff McGuffy’s unmarked vehicle from her driveway. Unfortunately, Sheriff McGuffy left her duty handgun (and a personal computer) inside her vehicle. Police eventually recovered the car, and as you thought, the gun was gone.
Okay, so the Sheriff who requires you to ask her for permission before carrying a firearm to defend yourself, lets a criminal take her gun because she didn’t think to properly store it?
Say it ain’t so!
I’ve often found that the people who don’t think me or you are responsible enough to possess firearms only think that because they are not responsible. It’s all projection. Is that the case here? I don’t know, but it’s a fair question to ask.
What’s worse, instead of taking responsibility, she made excuses.
She said the following:
I had gone out to a barricaded individual out in Symmes Township. So, you know, when I got home, I locked up the car because it was just, yeah, I secured it in the vehicle and locked the car in my own driveway and got busy with something else I had to put my attention to. The next morning is when I discovered the vehicle had been stolen right out of my driveway.
She said she did NOTHING wrong. She also said she doesn’t know if she locked the “compartment” where she regularly leaves her gun. WHAT!!!
She regularly leaves her gun in the vehicle! And she thinks it’s routine for police to leave guns in their vehicles?
That is an ignorant and naive position at best and a flat-out lie at worst.
This is the person who wants to weigh in and say you shouldn’t be able to carry a handgun without asking for HER permission. Sheriff McGuffy is entitled to have and voice her opinion, but I happen to disagree with her.
There are no words
This happened just a few miles north, to Dayton’s police chief back in 2017. A full investigation was conducted. Why for him but not for her?
Most likely because Chiefs are appointed and Sheriff’s are elected.
I think it’s time for a recall vote…..this woman does not deserve to be the Sheriff. Having retired from Law Enforcement I can tell you that if a Deputy left their duty weapon unattended in their vehicle and had it stolen they would have been raked over the coals with internal affairs so far up their backside their eyes would pop out.
Time for a recall election
Isn’t a Sheriff the person in a county with responsibility for making sure the Constitution is followed? She’s violating her oath and responsibility. She should resign.
Only a dumb — leaves their firearm in an unattended vehicle.
Any Sheriff or Law Enforcement Officer that can’t safegrard their own or issued firearm is too incompetent to be a badge wearing officer! Fire the stupid incompetent and hire someone that ic competent and that will do a proper job!
She should not be allowed to carry or for that matter own a gun. Has she had any firearm training?
That nitwit needs to be fired.
Gee, LEO afar stolen from the driveway. Why advertise? At least park the POV outside and secure the G ride inside. It is not like no does not know where she lives.
Firearm ownership and use has to be RESPONSIBLE.
She’s not
once again, its ok for them, but not us. sorry she does not need to be in law enforcement
Time to vote in a new sheriff. So she has an excuse for everything. What if one of her deputies had there car and or unsecured weapon stolen Suspension or fired.But he said he did nothing wrong. What an embarrassing moment.
If this so-called Sheriff wants to preach about how that her Stat’s Governor needs to revoke the Constitutional carry law because of some supposedly fictional gun crimes but that are actually non-existent then she need to have head examined and also a entire refresher course on PROPER firearm storage for Law Enforcement Officers as well as a constant reminder that you DON’T leave your SERVICE Weapon in your personal vehicle unlocked. For those people who will later read this comment, this is a interesting article as that any smart Law Enforcement Officer knows that or is trained while there still in the academy about firearm retention and what will happen to them as a Law Enforcement Officer if there service weapon is stolen and is used in a crime. Yep you guessed it they would be arrested and put on trial. So in this case of her service weapon being insecure and then being stolen she should have been arrested, investigated by IA (Internal Affairs for all you non-crime movie watching junkies) and finally fired.
I was a NYC cop for 26 years, and now VERY HAPPILY retired. That being said, I NEVER, in my 26 year career, and in the 10 years since I retired, EVER left ANY KIND OF FIREARM in my vehicle. My gun is ON MY PERSON, AT ALL TIMES, THAT I’M OUTSIDE MY HOME. She said she “secured it in her vehicle”?? THERE IS NO SUCH THING as securing a firearm in a place that can roll, or be removed through theft. AND she didn’t secure the compartment she put the weapon in?? She’s a JOKE, and an EMBARRASSMENT to law enforcement, in general, with a liberal, anti-gun stance, regarding firearms possession by LAW ABIDING, RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS, just necause SHE SCREWED UP. She needs to to worry about HER OWN FIREARMS, before she thinks to tell RESPONSIBLE gun owners what to do with theirs….And BTW, SHE should be held responsible for ANY CRIME HER GUN IS USED IN!
Very interesting! Recall that police officer Rusten Sheskey shot Jacob Blake seven times that led to the the Kenosha riots. Three weeks later Sheskey was staying at a friends home, concern that staying at his home was not safe (the shooting was 3 weeks after the tragic George Floyd police killing. Rusten stored his handgun in his girlfriend’s vehicle which was broken into and sure enough, they stole his loaner Glock 17 handgun. He “believed” that the night the firearm was stolen, the glovebox had been locked.
Yet coincidentally (NOT) police officials didn’t discipline officer Rusten Sheskey for irresponsibly allowing the theft until AFTER internal affairs cleared him of the shooting charges some 7 months later. Clearly, had this been revealed BEFORE the investigation cleared him, discovering his poor judgment allowing his handgun to be stolen might have influenced the conclusion by internal affairs, to say nothing about public outcry of his aquittal. Ultimately, officer Sheskey received a 3 day suspension without pay.
You would think that Sheriff McGuffy would receive some form of disciplinary action by the Ohio Board of County Commissioners (accountability controls vary by State).
… and while us Californian’s are often not proud of our gun laws, here’s the recital for weapons in our vehicles:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN§ionNum=25140.
25140. (a) Except as otherwise provided in subdivision (b), a person shall, when leaving a handgun in an unattended vehicle, lock the handgun in the vehicle’s trunk, lock the handgun in a locked container and place the container out of plain view, lock the handgun in a locked container that is permanently affixed to the vehicle’s interior and not in plain view, or lock the handgun in a locked toolbox or utility box.
(b) A peace officer, when leaving a handgun in an unattended vehicle not equipped with a trunk, may, if unable to otherwise comply with subdivision (a), lock the handgun out of plain view within the center utility console of that motor vehicle with a padlock, keylock, combination lock, or other similar locking device.
(c) A violation of subdivision (a) is an infraction punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000).
(d) (1) As used in this section, the following definitions shall apply:
(A) “Locked container” means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, keylock, combination lock, or similar locking device. The term “locked container” does not include the utility or glove compartment of a motor vehicle.
I agree with all of the above replies, she is a twit. I am a retired LEO.
Time for another liberal hack to resign and move into another area of work. Say like house sitting?? Oh I don’t know but she should definitely resign Time for the other 90% of people to start demanding these 10%ers leave public office
Just because a not so careful Sheriff left her gun in her car, and probably in plain sight, she gets butt hurt and wants to take away our Constitutional Rights. It appears that she has had no firearm training, or she thought they rules didn’t apply to her in the storage of a firearm.
This sheriff is as stupid as a bag of rocks. She is a sounding board for the radical far left puck’s who’s goal is to destroy the Constitution and Bill of Rights. She needs to lose her job!!!
Typical ignorant hypocrite.
Not a good reflection on those who voted for such a low quality ‘servant of the people’ either…
Who elects these TARDS ? She’s a dumb-a—. So everyone else should give up their rights because she’s stupid? Must be a Democrat. What if next time they want to kill u and take the car? Your the incompetent one not law abiding citizens who don’t want to be a victim in the next car jacking. How about losing your rights instead of ours? You should resign in shame because you don’t have enough common since to carry a weapon. Hey just so you don’t look to see THE PROJECTILE COMES OUT THE LITTLE HOLE IN THE FRONT OF THE WEAPON RIGHT BELOW THE FRONT SIGHT!
The fact that she had her firearm stolen from her vehicle (irresponsible as heck on her part) should demonstrate to her that NO amount of law or legislature is going to prevent the usage of firearms in a criminal manner. I refuse to use the idiotic term “gun violence” intentionally!
Sherriff, let us be clear here. You can make carrying, or even OWNING a gun, super duper, double dog illegal, and it will have 0… that is ZERO.. .NADA ZILCH! effect on a criminal using a gun to commit a crime. HOW is it that you are in law enforcement, and CANNOT get that through your simple liberal mind?!?
Time for her to resign, and for the people to elect a new sheriff, who knows proper firearm safety.
Typical liberal that says it’s ok for me to do, but you can’t do it. I have always said,
If I have my gun on me I know where it is and it is good. With all of the car thief’s
these days, I will not leave my gun in the car. That would just be another gun on the street. Is this one of their ” common sense laws they talk about”?
There are some stupid LEOs out there. I stopped at a local gas station to fill up. Had to use the rest room, and lo and behold there sitting on the back of the commode was a whole rig a cop had left. Ripe for an other than honest citizen to steal, I took it to the register to hold for the dumbass to retrieve it. Could have had me an extra gun.
now everyone really needs a gun to protect themselves from the guy with her gun .i don’t think moron is too strong a word to describe her anti-American ,and unconstitutional demeanor ,as a law officer .one would think she would take her oath seriously to uphold the constitution ,and the state laws as a sworn LEO if not just get the hell out of town.
Isn’t that about par for the course. Dies this nean she’s jumping up and going to take personal responsibility and offer herself up to law suits for every criminal offense not protected from in her county? Maybe a landslide of law suits for dereliction of duty for not stopping crime should land of her door step. Fight fire with fire.